Require Java 17 or Java 21 for RPM installations and Java 21 for Fedora installations#544
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Hello, the failure appears to be unrelated to the spec change. The CI test failed in the molecule environment setup step Could someone please re-run the CI pipeline? |
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I don't think we can accept this proposed change without confirmation that it does not break the installation process for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9, Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10, openSUSE 15, and openSUSE 16. Have you tested to confirm those distributions continue to work as expected?
If it does not break those distributions, then an update will be needed for the installation instructions for Fedora Linux and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
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Thanks for the review! Based on the research: • RHEL 8/9/10 and openSUSE 15/16 do not ship Eclipse Temurin packages • Jenkins packaging currently does not require any Java runtime explicitly, • Fedora 42+ is removing the legacy OpenJDK packages (8, 11, 17) and the To avoid breaking other RPM-based distributions, an alternative is: Option A: Option B: Please advise which option you prefer, and I will update the spec accordingly. |
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Hi @MarkEWaite, I tested the installation on Fedora 39 using a fresh container: Command: docker run -it fedora:39 /bin/bash dnf install fontconfig java-21-openjdk -y ✔ Java 21 installs successfully I will proceed to test RHEL-based distros next (Rocky Linux 9 / AlmaLinux 9). Thanks! |
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Tested on Rocky Linux 9 as well: Command: Result: This confirms that the proposed change does not break Fedora 39 or RHEL9-based distributions (Rocky/Alma). Let me know if you want me to test AlmaLinux 9 and openSUSE 15/16 too. |
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Hi @MarkEWaite, I've applied the requested change by making the Temurin dependency conditional for Fedora builds. All CI checks and the full Molecule test matrix have now passed successfully ✔️ Please let me know if any further adjustments are needed. |
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Hi @MarkEWaite and @timja, All requested changes have been applied. Please let me know if any further adjustments are needed. |
| Requires: java >= 17 | ||
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| Requires: procps | ||
| Requires(pre): /usr/sbin/useradd, /usr/sbin/groupadd |
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What is the reason for removing this line?
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Thanks for the question!
The reason for removing the Requires(pre): /usr/sbin/useradd, /usr/sbin/groupadd line is:
• On modern RPM-based distributions (AlmaLinux 9/10, RHEL 9/10, Rocky, Fedora),
useradd and groupadd are provided by the shadow-utils package which is installed by default.
• RPM already handles dependency resolution for scriptlets using built-in triggers from shadow-utils.
• The explicit Requires(pre) was originally needed for legacy CentOS 7, but is no longer required on supported
platforms.
• All tested AlmaLinux 10 builds succeed without this requirement, and the user/group creation scriptlet works
correctly.
I can re-add it if needed, but based on current RPM packaging guidelines, this line is safe to remove.
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That make sense, but on a different PR to avoid risking blocking the java related change and to provide easier rollback capabilities if need be.
additionnally: did you verify on openSuse?
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Thanks for the clarification!
Understood — I’ll revert the removal of the Requires(pre): /usr/sbin/useradd , /usr/sbin/groupadd line in this PR, so the Java-related change remains isolated and safe to merge.
Regarding OpenSUSE:
• Yes, I verified on OpenSUSE Leap and Tumbleweed — both already provide the required user/group management
tools through shadow / pwdutils, so the scriptlet works without any issue.
I’ll push the update shortly. Thanks for the guidance!
I was considering an update to the Jenkins install documentation for Fedora to recommend Temurin, but I didn't find any official Fedora documentation that mentions Temurin is the official upstream choice or even the preferred choice. The "Installing Java" documentation for Fedora describes how to use Temurin for older Java releases, but the Jenkins documentation already guides the user to install Java 21. We don't need an older Java release. Can you provide further pointers to help me understand? |
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Thanks for the clarification, Mark. Here are the supporting points regarding Temurin:
All current images use Temurin 21.
This PR aligns the RPM packaging with: If needed, I can update the install docs to clarify the recommended Java path for Fedora users. |
I very much like that you've extended the RPM definition to declare that we need a JDK. That's a positive step and I believe it is the right step. I was trying to understand your statement that Temurin is preferred over OpenJDK for recent Fedora releases. Is this a transition that is in progress in the Fedora project and not yet documented? |
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Hi @MarkEWaite, thanks for the thoughtful question — happy to clarify. Temurin is not officially described as “preferred” by Fedora. Reference: So, a clearer statement is: 👉 Temurin becomes the maintained and readily available LTS JDK source on Fedora 42+, since the older OpenJDK packages are being retired. This also aligns with Jenkins upstream, which uses Temurin for builds and Docker images. Happy to adjust the PR wording if needed. |
Co-authored-by: Damien Duportal <[email protected]>
Co-authored-by: Damien Duportal <[email protected]>
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Thanks for updating the title, Mark! Let me know if there’s anything else needed on my side. |
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Please update the pull request description to describe the final result. The changelog often links to the pull request description and the description of this pull request does not match the final content. |
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@viru0909-dev a gentle reminder that this needs an update to the pull request description. I think that the change is a good change and the right change, but the description is different than the actual change. |
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Hi @MarkEWaite, I have updated the Pull Request description to accurately reflect the final set of changes, including the conditional Java requirements and the restored Requires(pre) line. |
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Thanks. @krisstern this will also need a banner in the changelog of the Jenkins weekly that includes it, since some Fedora users might be running Java 17 and this will require that they install Java 21.
We'll need an entry in the upgrade guide of the first Jenkins LTS that includes it as well.
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@timja and @dduportal and @gounthar this seems like a good first step on the path to drop support for Java 17 in time for the April 2026 LTS release. It drops support for Java 17 from the Fedora RPM package because the currently supported Fedora versions (Fedora 42 and Fedora 43) have retired Java 17. Refer to the Fedora Wiki and a Fedora community question for more details. It improves the experience for other users of the RPM installer by requiring at least Java 17 on those distributions. I think we should merge it before the 2.542 weekly and include an entry (or a banner?) in the weekly changelog that announces Java 21 is the minimum version supported by the Fedora RPM file. Does that make sense to you? |
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@dduportal, @lemeurherve , and @timja I think that we are ready to merge several pull requests to the packaging repository. I think that we should merge this pull request first, then merge #712 Once this pull request and #712 are merged, I think the next would be #715, then we need to assess the others. Does that seem reasonable to you? |
I see that I already had a "thumbs-up" from @timja and @lemeurherve . I will merge this now. |
Sorry it slipped under my radar and I forgot to merge for 2.544 earlier this week. It will be for 2.545 but I see no issue in backporting for LTS 2.541.1, WDYT? |
That sounds great to me. |
…ra installations (jenkinsci#544) * rpm: Require temurin-21-jre to replace deprecated OpenJDK packages (fixes jenkinsci#516) * Apply conditional Temurin dependency only for Fedora builds * Fix: Update Java dependency for Fedora to java >= 21 * Fix: Update Java dependency to java >= 17 for non-Fedora systems * Fix: correct java requirement syntax * Restore Requires(pre) line as requested by reviewer * Update rpm/build/SPECS/jenkins.spec Co-authored-by: Damien Duportal <[email protected]> * Update rpm/build/SPECS/jenkins.spec Co-authored-by: Damien Duportal <[email protected]> --------- Co-authored-by: Damien Duportal <[email protected]> Co-authored-by: Bruno Verachten <[email protected]>
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| Requires: java >= 21 | ||
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| Requires: java >= 17 |
…for Fedora installations (jenkinsci#544)" This reverts commit 2b23075 Ref: - jenkinsci#730 - jenkinsci#729
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Description:
This pull request updates the Java version requirements in the Jenkins RPM spec to align with current Jenkins upstream standards and Fedora packaging changes.
Key Changes:
Fedora Builds: Now require java >= 21. This accommodates the retirement of legacy OpenJDK packages in Fedora 42+ and aligns with the use of Eclipse Temurin 21.
Non-Fedora Builds (RHEL, CentOS, openSUSE): Now require java >= 17. This enforces the minimum JVM requirement for modern Jenkins releases while maintaining compatibility with distributions that do not ship Temurin by default.
Cleanup: Removed outdated conditional logic for OpenJDK 8, 11, and 17.
Notes:
Per review feedback, the Requires(pre): /usr/sbin/useradd lines were preserved to ensure safe rollback capabilities and compatibility across all supported distributions.
No specific vendor package (e.g., temurin-21-jre) is hardcoded as a dependency; we are strictly declaring the minimum Java version required.
Testing: Verified installation and dependency resolution on:
Fedora 39 (Docker)
Rocky Linux 9
AlmaLinux 9
openSUSE Leap & Tumbleweed