Which EVSE reference does this charging point have?

[guerda]

General

Affected tag(s) to be modified/added: ref:EU:EVSE
Question asked: Which EVSE reference does this charging point have?

Checklist

Checklist for quest suggestions (see guidelines):

• 🚧 To be added tag is established and has a useful purpose
• 🤔 Any answer the user can give must have an equivalent tagging (Quest should not reappear to other users when solved by one)
• 🐿️ Easily answerable by any pedestrian from the outside but a survey is necessary
• 💤 Not an overwhelming percentage of quests have the same answer (No spam)
• 🕓 Applies to a reasonable number of map data (Worth the effort): 5,286 nodes in Germany, 904 of them have an EVSE filled (at the time of creation of this issue)

Ideas for implementation

Element selection: man_made=charge_point without a ref:EU:EVSE in the EU.

Metadata needed: no metadata needed per country.

Proposed UI:
Text input for the EVSE. The text should explain, how the EVSE look like, e.g. DE*GCE*EACCC00161571. The first part is a country code, the second part is a operator ID and then the point ID.

[matkoniecz]

has anything changed since #5163 ?

[mcliquid]

See also: Helium314#444

[matkoniecz]

In other words: how one would collect this info based on survey?

See #5163 (comment) #5163 (comment)

[guerda]

Sorry for not finding the duplicates, I'm happy to close this in favor of the others.

[guerda]

How to survey them: each charging point (not station) has the ID listed, in most cases above the socket or on the lid.

One important aspect did change since 13.4.2024: The EU requires all charging stations to be usable via ad hoc charging (AFIR regulation).
The EVSE is used for that, as this is the identifier, all partners can be charged against. So there has to be the id clearly signed.

@matkoniecz What do you suggest, shoudl we continue this in the longer thread #5163 or here?

[mnalis]

One important aspect did change since 13.4.2024: The EU requires all charging stations to be usable via ad hoc charging (AFIR regulation).

Thanks for that updated information @guerda ! If it must be published on the EV charging station now, than it indeed sounds to me it is more eligible to become StreetComplete (or at least SCEE) Quest than it was before.

Looking at linked https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_impl/2025/655/oj, if I understand it correctly, it would seem operators would also be required to publish their charging information in DATEX II format available to the public?

If that is indeed the requirement¹ and license of that data is compatible with ODbL, then OSM import might perhaps make more sense (and have much bigger reach), given StreetComplete guideline:

💵 Valuable Surveyors: Surveyor time is valuable, they shouldn't be asked to complete data that does not require a survey and can more efficiently be done remotely.

Does anyone have information about that?

Footnotes

1. and not merely a suggestion (I haven't looked deeply into it) ↩

[guerda]

Thanks for looking into the directive even! I haven't seen any details about the publication of the charging information so I really don't know if this would contain the EVSE and if we could even map it into the OSM data structure.

I checked out the BNetzA publication of charging stations, but that format is really coarse and not really up to date (they only capture stations, not the charging points systemically).

[westnordost]

For on-foot survey: How is the EVSE id recognizable as an EVSE id? I expect there are a couple of numbers on charging stations, such as maybe a provider-local reference number, some numbers that are technical details etc.

[FloEdelmann]

The EVSE ID follows a specific format (see last paragraph in the issue description). Only one number on the charging station should match that format.

[westnordost]

Okay, so the answering instruction would be "the code that starts with DE*" (for Germany). Pretty long, this code, though...