Official(?) discord abandoned.

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

It seems that the discord server linked in the readme has been abandoned by those who originally set it up and there is inappropriate (potentially malicious) content and confusion among the members. I pinged the moderators and admins of the server and received no response so i am opening an issue here hoping that we can solve this because it looks unprofessional. I have experience moderating two public discords, one with over 25k members and i am willing to help clean up and maintain your discord server (for free). Send me a direct message on discord @ Johnny Milkshakes#1337 or comment on this issue in order to discuss further. I am looking forward to hearing back from someone official and if this is not an appropriate location to discuss please point me in the right direction. Cheers.

[devsnek]

We started the discord as an experiment but unfortunately we've had a lack of both engaged users and engaged moderation. I think at this point its worth considering it a failure. People can continue to use the irc and slack.

cc @nodejs/community-committee

[WaleedAshraf]

I also saw some unrelated and inappropriate content. Better to shut it down. Not sure how much active users it has and what's their engagement.
@bnb can comment better.

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

Aw that makes me sad since discord is my main source of communication but if that is what the consensus is then so be it

[Fishrock123]

The discord is a failed experiment. I have admin ability in there but plan to do none, so I am just going to lock the default user level.

No, I do not have time to do anything more. If someone really thinks they can turn it around, I can give them admin but it'd going to be a heck of a lot more work.

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

I would be happy to help @Fishrock123

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

I'll dm you on Discord

[Fishrock123]

I am not looking for helpers. Someone would have to take up and lead the whole thing.

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

My only issue is that i am not yet a pro at node but if that is ok with you i am a capable discord admin. I can create a welcome channel, manage bots, protect users from potentially malicious links, keep discussion respectful and in the correct channels, and help guide the server in any direction we wish to take it.

[cfanoulis]

@Johny-Milkshakes I'd be more than glad to accompany you on this journey, in case of course you wish to. After all, 2 brains can't be worse than one, am I right?

EDIT: I see you agree. Please dm me if possible, I am enkiel#8029

[jakeNiemiec]

You might want to take it off the README:
https://github.com/nodejs/node/blame/master/README.md#L54

@Johnny-Milkshakes @cfanoulis If you are looking to migrate, Nodeiflux has a large (and well-moderated) server: https://discord.gg/PjTAJKF it's the same one from: #20508 (comment)

[devsnek]

I'd be interested in trying to combine nodeiflux, unofficial node.js, and our experimental server, although i'm not sure where to start with that. (i pinged the owners of the other two about this issue, so anything is possible :P)

[Johnny-Milkshakes]

We can build a bot and create a bridge channel in each server so users in each server can interact with each other. It might be a little redundant being a discord-discord bridge but i have seen it done for matrix-discord in the ipfs server
Edit: or rather, just bridge the help channels for now

[vcarl]

IMO if there's going to be a merge, should just pull off the bandaid. A bridge server encourages people to hang around the old server rather than hop in the new one. Discord has permissions to disable sending messages, so could lock down the old server and post a message saying where to find the new one.

I've been running Nodeiflux for a few months (though there's isn't much to do daily). We've got a handful of active contributors, one of whom is talking to a graphic designer about getting a logo. I've thought about doing some community Q&As the way Reactiflux does, but I'm not sure there are enough members online for it to go well.

[jakeNiemiec]

@devsnek I think this would add some more context nodejs/community-committee#352 (comment)

Node.js communities that have been sources of consistent problems and just as consistently have refused very specific requests around moderation.

Despite the node.js discord being founded on "the commitment to being safe" nodejs/admin#53 (comment), 2 months after creation, the mods stopped caring about the rules & safety they spent a year arguing for: #17821 (comment)

Nobody liked the heavy-handed moderation...so they left.